Dave Keating
Napsal: 5.8.2024 12:54
Na Náměstí Praha 3 už je o něm psáno:
davekeating: https://trojkatretiho.cz/search.php?key ... avekeating
Keating: https://trojkatretiho.cz/search.php?keywords=Keating
Jeho stránka: https://www.davekeating.net/
Ale asi nejvíc: https://davekeating.substack.com
A teď zrovna: Europeans should be more like Americans when it comes to civics: Comparing the US Capitol visitors center to the Parlamentarium in Brussels drives home a depressing reality: Americans understand their own lawmaking process much more than Europeans do theirs. Jul 29, 2024: https://davekeating.substack.com/p/euro ... -americans
("civics" = občanská výchova)
Na což mě upozornil @Veza85UE@eupolicy.social https://eupolicy.social/@Veza85UE/112871771935257687:
> A useful #WTFistheCouncil reminder I usually have to skip due to character limits or not wanting to scare off normies too much. It's not just our national governments who'd prefer to keep us ignorant about how the #EU works (though they're the biggest culprit), journalists, lobbyists, and a lot of MEPs benefit from it as well.
>
> https://davekeating.substack.com/p/euro ... -americans
>
> #EuropeanUnion #UE #Europe #EUpol #europolitics #europol
>
>> Most visitors to the Parlamentarium come in with no knowledge, because their education systems (particularly in Western Europe) don’t teach them anything about how their confederal level of government works. It is in many peoples’ interest in Europe to keep the public ignorant of how EU law is made, from national politicians who like to convince citizens EU laws are being forced upon them to Brussels-based lobbyists and journalists who insist the EU is so complicated that you need to pay them big bucks to translate it for you. And part of the reason the EU Parliament virtually ignores the Council in its visitor center is because it is in a constant institutional power battle to big up its own importance. MEPs like it when the public mistakenly thinks the parliament’s version of a bill means it’s just become law.
Nějaké moje další citace z https://davekeating.substack.com/p/euro ... -americans :
About US:
> the exhibit where they explain how the legislature works – how a bill becomes a law. As I’ve written before, this is something every American is taught in civics class (what we call social studies) around the age of 14. And so most Americans know the basics: the House and the Senate each draft their own versions of a bill, those two versions are then combined in the reconciliation process, and then the president chooses to sign it into law or try to veto it. So these explanations are probably more for foreign visitors than for Americans.
About EU:
> The explanations are overly complicated and almost seem to deliberately obfuscate the fact that the parliament is only one part of the process of EU lawmaking. Which is not helpful on a continent where civics education is extremely limited compared to in America (because of American TV and movies, Europeans know more about how the US government works than they know about how their own federal EU level of government works - and for many Europeans, more than they even understand how their own national government works).
> there is nothing like the Capitol visitor center exhibit pictured below that clearly shows how competencies are split between federal and member state level.
> You can explain the EU simply
>
> While there are certainly elements of EU law-making that are unnecessarily complex or cumbersome, the basics of how EU laws are made are actually fairly easy to explain - particularly by relating it to the American and German political systems. Really, the only thing people need to know is that there are three legislative bodies and one judicial overseer. There is the executive branch - the European Commission, which one could say is equivalent to the White House (along with the giant civil service within the agencies which the White House oversees). Then there is a two-house bicameral legislature. The lower house, the directly-elected European Parliament, is less powerful than the upper house, the EU Council. And then there is the EU’s supreme court, the European Court of Justice, which makes sure the member states follow the laws passed by the EU legislature and that the EU legislature itself is acting within the law.
> As in any other federal system like Germany’s or America’s, in the EU some areas of law are covered by the federal level and some are a competence of states. Unlike in those national federal systems however, the line between federal and member state law in the EU can be a bit blurred because of directives - a peculiarity of EU law. There are two types of EU legislation: regulations that are directly applicable on people and companies, and directives where deliverables and goals are spelled out and member states can choose how to meet them.
> But the reality is EU lawmaking is not much more complicated than how US governance works, with a similar split between federal, state and local law.
> It is a good thing that Americans are taught how their own government works. That is something that Europeans should emulate. That Europeans aren’t taught these basic things has been one of the most shocking things I’ve encountered living in Europe.
Psal jsem v tématu-vláknu tagu "Politické strany a volby v Evropské unii" 1 https://trojkatretiho.cz/viewtopic.php?p=1442#p1442 #tg304326423 :
> To, čemu se máme věnovat je (1) pochopení jak systém funguje, (2) budovat a používat nějaké informační soustavy, které nám poskytují ucelený obraz o tom, co kteří politici opravdu dělají - třeba jak hlasují, jaké zákony přijímají, jaká rozhodnutí učinili (3) dělat si názor na nějaké své dlouhodobé politické zaměření a diskutovat o něm.
Když teda #DavidKeating a @Veza85UE@eupolicy.social tak jasně popisují, jaké jednoduché popisy fungování, řekněme Evropské unie, jakých pár stránek v učebnici občanské nauky a jakou infografiku máme mít, tak já bych byl pro, abychom takové popisy a stránky a grafiky buď našli nebo vytvořili.
@Boerps@nrw.social @fonecokid@c.im @Pierrette@mastodon.uno @reznym@mastodon.online @tatageek@witter.cz @unterwasser@mastodonczech.cz @Veza85UE@eupolicy.social
#tg328023734 #tg304326423
davekeating: https://trojkatretiho.cz/search.php?key ... avekeating
Keating: https://trojkatretiho.cz/search.php?keywords=Keating
Jeho stránka: https://www.davekeating.net/
Ale asi nejvíc: https://davekeating.substack.com
A teď zrovna: Europeans should be more like Americans when it comes to civics: Comparing the US Capitol visitors center to the Parlamentarium in Brussels drives home a depressing reality: Americans understand their own lawmaking process much more than Europeans do theirs. Jul 29, 2024: https://davekeating.substack.com/p/euro ... -americans
("civics" = občanská výchova)
Na což mě upozornil @Veza85UE@eupolicy.social https://eupolicy.social/@Veza85UE/112871771935257687:
> A useful #WTFistheCouncil reminder I usually have to skip due to character limits or not wanting to scare off normies too much. It's not just our national governments who'd prefer to keep us ignorant about how the #EU works (though they're the biggest culprit), journalists, lobbyists, and a lot of MEPs benefit from it as well.
>
> https://davekeating.substack.com/p/euro ... -americans
>
> #EuropeanUnion #UE #Europe #EUpol #europolitics #europol
>
>> Most visitors to the Parlamentarium come in with no knowledge, because their education systems (particularly in Western Europe) don’t teach them anything about how their confederal level of government works. It is in many peoples’ interest in Europe to keep the public ignorant of how EU law is made, from national politicians who like to convince citizens EU laws are being forced upon them to Brussels-based lobbyists and journalists who insist the EU is so complicated that you need to pay them big bucks to translate it for you. And part of the reason the EU Parliament virtually ignores the Council in its visitor center is because it is in a constant institutional power battle to big up its own importance. MEPs like it when the public mistakenly thinks the parliament’s version of a bill means it’s just become law.
Nějaké moje další citace z https://davekeating.substack.com/p/euro ... -americans :
About US:
> the exhibit where they explain how the legislature works – how a bill becomes a law. As I’ve written before, this is something every American is taught in civics class (what we call social studies) around the age of 14. And so most Americans know the basics: the House and the Senate each draft their own versions of a bill, those two versions are then combined in the reconciliation process, and then the president chooses to sign it into law or try to veto it. So these explanations are probably more for foreign visitors than for Americans.
About EU:
> The explanations are overly complicated and almost seem to deliberately obfuscate the fact that the parliament is only one part of the process of EU lawmaking. Which is not helpful on a continent where civics education is extremely limited compared to in America (because of American TV and movies, Europeans know more about how the US government works than they know about how their own federal EU level of government works - and for many Europeans, more than they even understand how their own national government works).
> there is nothing like the Capitol visitor center exhibit pictured below that clearly shows how competencies are split between federal and member state level.
> You can explain the EU simply
>
> While there are certainly elements of EU law-making that are unnecessarily complex or cumbersome, the basics of how EU laws are made are actually fairly easy to explain - particularly by relating it to the American and German political systems. Really, the only thing people need to know is that there are three legislative bodies and one judicial overseer. There is the executive branch - the European Commission, which one could say is equivalent to the White House (along with the giant civil service within the agencies which the White House oversees). Then there is a two-house bicameral legislature. The lower house, the directly-elected European Parliament, is less powerful than the upper house, the EU Council. And then there is the EU’s supreme court, the European Court of Justice, which makes sure the member states follow the laws passed by the EU legislature and that the EU legislature itself is acting within the law.
> As in any other federal system like Germany’s or America’s, in the EU some areas of law are covered by the federal level and some are a competence of states. Unlike in those national federal systems however, the line between federal and member state law in the EU can be a bit blurred because of directives - a peculiarity of EU law. There are two types of EU legislation: regulations that are directly applicable on people and companies, and directives where deliverables and goals are spelled out and member states can choose how to meet them.
> But the reality is EU lawmaking is not much more complicated than how US governance works, with a similar split between federal, state and local law.
> It is a good thing that Americans are taught how their own government works. That is something that Europeans should emulate. That Europeans aren’t taught these basic things has been one of the most shocking things I’ve encountered living in Europe.
Psal jsem v tématu-vláknu tagu "Politické strany a volby v Evropské unii" 1 https://trojkatretiho.cz/viewtopic.php?p=1442#p1442 #tg304326423 :
> To, čemu se máme věnovat je (1) pochopení jak systém funguje, (2) budovat a používat nějaké informační soustavy, které nám poskytují ucelený obraz o tom, co kteří politici opravdu dělají - třeba jak hlasují, jaké zákony přijímají, jaká rozhodnutí učinili (3) dělat si názor na nějaké své dlouhodobé politické zaměření a diskutovat o něm.
Když teda #DavidKeating a @Veza85UE@eupolicy.social tak jasně popisují, jaké jednoduché popisy fungování, řekněme Evropské unie, jakých pár stránek v učebnici občanské nauky a jakou infografiku máme mít, tak já bych byl pro, abychom takové popisy a stránky a grafiky buď našli nebo vytvořili.
@Boerps@nrw.social @fonecokid@c.im @Pierrette@mastodon.uno @reznym@mastodon.online @tatageek@witter.cz @unterwasser@mastodonczech.cz @Veza85UE@eupolicy.social
#tg328023734 #tg304326423