Unijní hosté

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Počítám s tím, že to může být náročné, ale přesto bych se chtěl pokusit se s někým shodnout, že téma / záležitost / otázka "Unijní hosté" patří do úrovně 4 nebo 3 a nepatří do úrovní 2 a 1. O úrovních zde: "Čtyři úrovně k Unii" 36 https://trojkatretiho.cz/viewtopic.php?p=1823#p1823 #tg434928726 .

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Pierrette píše:

@tymoty I agree, but it’s an issue nonetheless, even if the definition of what EU is comes first

( https://mastodon.uno/@Pierrette/113129093728414873 )

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@Pierrette@mastodon.uno Yes, the treatment of the guests is an issue. An important one. Yet, I believe (a) "our" definition of what Union we want (level 2) should not include specific about the guests' treatment; (b) taking fight with the idiotic treatment is counterproductive; (c) there are better strategies. (It'll be complicated argument. I intend to present it. I am looking forward to your and others' views.)

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I reckon it may be challenging, but I would still like to try to agree with someone that the topic / issue / question "Union Guests" belongs to level 4 or 3 and not to levels 2 and 1. About the levels here: "Čtyři úrovně k Unii“" 36 https://trojkatretiho.cz/viewtopic.php?p=1823#p1823 #tg434928726 .

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With respect to the guests, I propose: We should not get started about the stupidity of the politicians. We should not get started about the idiotic policies. We should use the motivation for something more efficient.

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#DavidGraeber and #DavidWengrow in Dawn of Everything, chapter 12 write:

All Wendat wars were, in fact, ‘mourning wars’, carried out to assuage the grief felt by close relatives of someone who had been killed.Typically, a war party would strike against traditional enemies, bringing back a few scalps and a small number of prisoners. Captive women and children would be adopted. The fate of men was largely up to the mourners, particularly the women, and appeared to outsiders at least to be entirely arbitrary. If the mourners felt it appropriate a male captive might be given a name, even the name of the original victim. The captive enemy would henceforth become that other person and, after a few years’ trial period, be treated as a full member of society. If for any reason that did not happen, however, he suffered a very different fate. For a male warrior taken prisoner, the only alternative to full adoption into Wendat society was excruciating death by torture.

[...] The violence seems all the more extraordinary once we recall how these same Wendat societies refused to spank children, directly punish thieves or murderers, or take any measure against their own members that smacked of arbitrary authority. In virtually all other areas of social life they were renowned for solving their problems through calm and reasoned debate.

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The quote illustrates the difference between societal and extrasocietal.

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Why is NATO not responding to Russian provocations? 8 min video by @anderspuck@krigskunst.social . Here as an illustrations that sometimes it is better not to respond directly to what irritates me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66CDGzjLBtY

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These are people who write about and undestand why it is sometimes better not to spin the frame which irritates me: @georgelakoff@sfba.social @gilduran@journa.host @vadarframing@mastodon.nu .

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A tady je nizozemský argument proti mně: Met de PVV is het einde democratie: Democratie De PVV is duidelijk antirechtsstatelijk en antidemocratisch, schrijft Liesje Schreuders. Dat zit niet alleen in dehumaniserende taal, maar ook in het afroepen van een asielcrisis.

https://archive.is/KvWJ0

🙏 @ErikJonker@mastodon.social 🎺 @kdekooter@mastodon.social 🚀

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