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Politology. Translation of sociological or statistical properties of the electorate into vote patterns or into parties / majorities / blocks formations.
Politology is the study of politics, focusing on its various aspects, including political systems, power dynamics, and decision-making processes. In this context, it involves the translation of sociological or statistical properties of the electorate into vote patterns or into parties/majorities/blocks formations. This way, it helps understand the relationships between the people's preferences, their demographics, and the resulting political landscape in terms of political structures and alliances.
Dutch article claiming that PVV rise is not because of changing of sociological, statistical, preferences, demographic but because of emergence of the possibility to express the preference by voting.
Een Nederlandse artikel stelt dat de groei van PVV niet komt door veranderingen in sociologische, statistische voorkeuren, demografische aspecten, maar juist vanwege de mogelijkheid om die voorkeur te uiten bij het stemmen. Dit suggereert dat de politieke klimaat verandert naarmate mensen hun meningen meer krijgen de kans te laten horen door middel van stemmen.
Do you now the article?
No, I do not have the specific article you are referring to. However, I can understand the general idea of the article might revolve around the increase in votes for the political party PVV and potential reasons for this rise, including the impact of societal and demographic factors on voting patterns. The article could also possibly discuss the importance of having the right to express one's political preference through the act of voting.
Thomas Picketty did some work in this direction to.
Thomas Piketty, a renowned French economist, has also contributed to this field. His famous work, "Capital in the Twenty-First Century," examines income inequality, capital accumulation, and its relationship with economic growth. While not directly focusing on political voting patterns as such, his research does provide insights into understanding the socioeconomic factors that potentially shape societal preferences and thus, political landscapes.
Politická krajina a politický lid
Re: Politická krajina a politický lid
https://bagarrosphere.fr/@abolitionnist ... 0102889191
@Jigsaw_You@mastodon.nl I think it was through your toot or your boost that I recently read a Dutch article claiming that the PVV result was not so much about changes of the 'people', their situation or their views as about the emergence of a possibility to express the views by voting. Can't find it now. May you help?
More here: https://trojkatretiho.cz/viewtopic.php?p=425#p425
#MyEU #ElectEU
@Jigsaw_You@mastodon.nl I think it was through your toot or your boost that I recently read a Dutch article claiming that the PVV result was not so much about changes of the 'people', their situation or their views as about the emergence of a possibility to express the views by voting. Can't find it now. May you help?
More here: https://trojkatretiho.cz/viewtopic.php?p=425#p425
#MyEU #ElectEU
Re: Politická krajina a politický lid
Ještě mi připadá, že změna politické krajiny bez změny politického lidu, může být způsobena jak v nabídkové části - jaké možnosti jsou lidu nabízeny, tak v poptávkové části - že člověk sice nezmění své názory, ale změní názor na to, co lze / chce volbou dosáhnout. To druhé by souznělo s knihou 'Populocracy', kterou nějak umím dohledat.
Re: Politická krajina a politický lid
No dobrá, tak další pokus o něco...
Máme tu:
https://eupolicy.social/@Veza85UE/112660481257539541 :
> Those exist too, no doubt, and more relevant for abstentionists. But that's a very generous view of voters who choose openly anti-democratic forces, who don't care if they burn the country down as long as they get to shit on minorities as a result or make money from clientelism. Some of their voters are poor, but quite a few are not (especially the religious fundie types). Sociopathy+grift are often ignored when looking at "primitive populist parties" and it's a mistake, imo.
To byla odezva na:
https://f.cz/@xChaos/112660356379938155 :
> ... of course, this is what drives the success.of primitive populist parties. Lot.of people don't feel included or benefiting from the status quo. As you wrote, they don't even participate in municipal elections...
K čemuž už jsem se vyjadřoval tady:
https://trojkatretiho.cz/viewtopic.php?p=932#p932 :
> Navrhuju, ať... odvrátíme pozornost od toho, co dělají a nedělají lidé, a ať pozornost věnujeme to, co děláme, neděláme, chceme my.
Máme tu:
https://eupolicy.social/@Veza85UE/112660481257539541 :
> Those exist too, no doubt, and more relevant for abstentionists. But that's a very generous view of voters who choose openly anti-democratic forces, who don't care if they burn the country down as long as they get to shit on minorities as a result or make money from clientelism. Some of their voters are poor, but quite a few are not (especially the religious fundie types). Sociopathy+grift are often ignored when looking at "primitive populist parties" and it's a mistake, imo.
To byla odezva na:
https://f.cz/@xChaos/112660356379938155 :
> ... of course, this is what drives the success.of primitive populist parties. Lot.of people don't feel included or benefiting from the status quo. As you wrote, they don't even participate in municipal elections...
K čemuž už jsem se vyjadřoval tady:
https://trojkatretiho.cz/viewtopic.php?p=932#p932 :
> Navrhuju, ať... odvrátíme pozornost od toho, co dělají a nedělají lidé, a ať pozornost věnujeme to, co děláme, neděláme, chceme my.
Re: Politická krajina a politický lid
Takže dva účastníci: @Veza85UE@eupolicy.social @xChaos@f.cz
Re: Politická krajina a politický lid
A pak je tu rozsáhlé mastodoní proplétání navazující na:
https://toot.community/@pmroman/112591816740683073 :
> Still "digesting" the outcome of the last EU election. Countries don't have yet all data available. Also, it's hard to determine the intent of the voters: do they want populist governments or do they want to force the traditional political actors to address their concerns? Can we compare populist parties (from the right and left) and find common positions? barely! They share their opposition to the system, but beyond that, they are yet to offer a true set of public policies.
https://toot.community/@pmroman/112591816740683073 :
> Still "digesting" the outcome of the last EU election. Countries don't have yet all data available. Also, it's hard to determine the intent of the voters: do they want populist governments or do they want to force the traditional political actors to address their concerns? Can we compare populist parties (from the right and left) and find common positions? barely! They share their opposition to the system, but beyond that, they are yet to offer a true set of public policies.
Re: Politická krajina a politický lid
Takže další účastníci: @pgcd@mastodon.online @pmroman@toot.community @Veza85UE@eupolicy.social @xChaos@f.cz
Re: Politická krajina a politický lid
Moje příspěvky k tomu mastodonímu proplétání:
https://bagarrosphere.fr/@abolitionnist ... 0164251862 :
> I believe in this view: The surge of populism is not caused by change in society or in people. What is new is the way for these views to be expressed and agregated. Formerly, the system / the elites had not allowed these to be expressed / agregated / accepted; lately, populists find a way to express themselves, to aggreagate, to be acceptable(?). I suggest: We don't analyse them. We accept, they are, as they are. We concentrate on the rest of our societies. On our agenda 👪
https://bagarrosphere.fr/@abolitionnist ... 8735201798 :
> I am not ignoring "them". I propose not to analyse them, not to argue with them, not to think about them, not to get angry at them. I propose that "we" should orgainse ourselves and fight for our truth, our values, our goals, our dreams... I claim that mastodoning is not enough. I claim it is sucking "our" energy we should better use elsewhere. I am proposing a Union-wide force(?) under the banner "🇪🇺 - World Power of Good". Some notes about: https://trojkatretiho.cz/viewtopic.php?p=888#p888
A také tento phpBB příspěvek: https://trojkatretiho.cz/viewtopic.php?p=890#p890
https://bagarrosphere.fr/@abolitionnist ... 0164251862 :
> I believe in this view: The surge of populism is not caused by change in society or in people. What is new is the way for these views to be expressed and agregated. Formerly, the system / the elites had not allowed these to be expressed / agregated / accepted; lately, populists find a way to express themselves, to aggreagate, to be acceptable(?). I suggest: We don't analyse them. We accept, they are, as they are. We concentrate on the rest of our societies. On our agenda 👪
https://bagarrosphere.fr/@abolitionnist ... 8735201798 :
> I am not ignoring "them". I propose not to analyse them, not to argue with them, not to think about them, not to get angry at them. I propose that "we" should orgainse ourselves and fight for our truth, our values, our goals, our dreams... I claim that mastodoning is not enough. I claim it is sucking "our" energy we should better use elsewhere. I am proposing a Union-wide force(?) under the banner "🇪🇺 - World Power of Good". Some notes about: https://trojkatretiho.cz/viewtopic.php?p=888#p888
A také tento phpBB příspěvek: https://trojkatretiho.cz/viewtopic.php?p=890#p890
Re: Politická krajina a politický lid
Viz také téma-vlákno "Je to složité" https://trojkatretiho.cz/viewtopic.php?p=598#p598 .
Re: Politická krajina a politický lid
Když se bavíme o Unii, volbách a spol, bavíme se o složitých soustavách, ke kterým nejsou jednoduchá vysvětlení ani jednoduché návody, jak docílit to či ono.
Jistě je možné složité soustavy zkoumat a získávat nějaké dílčí nebo přibližné výsledky. Taková zkoumání mě zajímají, pokud jsou do nějaké míry vědecká a pokud si povídám s někým, komu ten a ten výsledek připadá také zajímavý.
Pro nás, pro tebe, @pgcd@mastodon.online , pro tebe, @pmroman@toot.community, pro tebe, @Veza85UE@eupolicy.social , pro tebe, @xChaos@f.cz , pro sebe a pro další, navrhuju zkoumat spíš sebe, ztvárňovat naše hodnoty, cíle a pravdy, a snažit se na nich shodnout. Nepředpokládat jaksi, že to "naše" je "normální" / "samzřejmé" / "objektivní" / "posvěcené", které ani nepotřebuje formulaci, ani vyslovení, ani shodu a že "oni" jsou "ne-normální", "vadní", "zlí", že je potřeba je chápat / pochopit / vysvětlit / změnit. Pojďme radši chápat sebe. Každý za sebe a jeden druhého. Pojďme radši vysvětlit sebe. Každý za sebe a jeden druhého. Pojďme zkoušet, hledat, tvořit, na čem bychom se tak mohli shodnout.
Jistě je možné složité soustavy zkoumat a získávat nějaké dílčí nebo přibližné výsledky. Taková zkoumání mě zajímají, pokud jsou do nějaké míry vědecká a pokud si povídám s někým, komu ten a ten výsledek připadá také zajímavý.
Pro nás, pro tebe, @pgcd@mastodon.online , pro tebe, @pmroman@toot.community, pro tebe, @Veza85UE@eupolicy.social , pro tebe, @xChaos@f.cz , pro sebe a pro další, navrhuju zkoumat spíš sebe, ztvárňovat naše hodnoty, cíle a pravdy, a snažit se na nich shodnout. Nepředpokládat jaksi, že to "naše" je "normální" / "samzřejmé" / "objektivní" / "posvěcené", které ani nepotřebuje formulaci, ani vyslovení, ani shodu a že "oni" jsou "ne-normální", "vadní", "zlí", že je potřeba je chápat / pochopit / vysvětlit / změnit. Pojďme radši chápat sebe. Každý za sebe a jeden druhého. Pojďme radši vysvětlit sebe. Každý za sebe a jeden druhého. Pojďme zkoušet, hledat, tvořit, na čem bychom se tak mohli shodnout.
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